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Frustrating the Most People!

Monday, January 12th, 2009

William Smead
Chief Executive Officer
Chief Investment Officer



 

 

Dear Clients and Prospective Clients:

As we start the year in the financial markets it appears that there are three distinct approaches being taken by those who normally invest. Since we believe the markets try to do whatever they have to do to frustrate the most people, let’s look at what would frustrate these three camps.

The smallest but most vociferous groups are those who think that this situation is most similar to 1930 through 1933. They believe that our economic difficulties will not allow a major improvement in the stock market for as long as two years. They think we will most likely retest the low in the stock market of November 20th of 2008 and very possibly go even lower. I think the strength of their argument is how cheap stocks got at the lows in 1974 and 1982 and their weakness is how much lower inflation and interest rates are today than back then and how much discounting a 50% peak to trough decline already did.

A large group today believes that sitting in cash or near-cash is the right thing to do. They kind of know in their hearts that things are cheap and attractive for purchase, but they are so traumatized by last year’s decline that they can’t bring themselves to stay in the saddle or jump back in. They also think they can’t take the psychological damage that an additional decline (predicted by the smallest group) in prices would do to their stock portfolio. The strength of their argument is that you can’t lose anything while they sit in the cash and the weakness is that nobody will ring a bell to get back in and they will likely miss the first two years of the next major U.S. bull market in stocks.

Nearly as large a group is the third one which includes us at Smead Capital Management. Folks like us want to own these common stocks for decades and enjoy what doing that normally brings. We are the traumatized optimists who wish we had received divine intervention one year ago (or listened to the divine intervention we got) and got out of the market. However, we don’t have too many regrets because we feel that long-term investors like us are going to get hit by one of these massive declines and cleansing processes every twenty years or so and it is a necessary part of admission to wealth creation. The strength of our argument is the history of investment markets and the economic history of the U.S. The weakness is we have no idea when the next great stock market will begin.

Therefore, what would frustrate the most people? A flat market or additional decline would make the first two groups happy and us sad. A huge move to the upside would make the buy-and-hold crowd like us very happy, but would frustrate everyone else. A grinding, slow and volatile recovery which takes three years and gains back everything lost last year would be similar to what happened after the 1987 crash in 1988 through 1990. It would frustrate the folks who are anxious to get their losses back quickly (like us) and leave the other two camps on the sidelines missing potentially double-digit returns. We believe this might be 2009’s most likely scenario.

In a 1995 interview in Forbes, Sir John Templeton explained his investment philosophy. He said, “People are always asking me where the outlook is good, but that’s the wrong question. The right question is: ‘Where is the outlook most miserable?” Put us with the traumatized optimists.

Best Wishes,

William Smead

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Only the Lonely Can Play

Monday, October 27th, 2008

William Smead
Chief Executive Officer
Chief Investment Officer

 

 

Dear Clients and Prospective Clients:

Over the next two years all major asset classes could be re-priced as the laws of supply and demand are enforced in the marketplace. The six major asset classes for most U.S. investors are stocks, treasury bonds, money markets/cash/t-bills, corporate and municipal bonds, real estate and commodities. History has proven that to be successful investing in these sectors requires a willingness to be lonely. A lonely seller when there are no sellers and a very lonely buyer when there are no buyers. Let’s examine each asset class at the moment.
 

 

Stocks

As we saw from June 30th to now in the price of Oil, price is a great regulator of price. Stocks are way down, having dropped the most in October since the crash of 1987. An abundance of selling supply coming from hedge fund liquidations, margin calls, mutual fund redemptions and individual stock owners (reaching their pain threshold) has overwhelmed the few lonely buyers. Most of the selling is being done in panic. The lonely buyers are people like corporate insiders and value-oriented, patient investors like Warren Buffett, John Neff, Marty Whitman and us at Smead Capital Management. Supply is high, demand is nil and prices are low.

Treasury Bonds

Demand is the highest since the 1930’s as investors want U.S. Government assurance of payment of principle and interest. Sellers are lonely and prices are high. Watch out though, because the Federal Reserve and Treasury are looking to massively increase supply as they trade Treasuries at high prices for preferred stock in depressed banks and out-of-favor mortgage loans.

Real Estate

Lonely buyers are coming out of the woodwork at lower prices to snatch up bargains in California, Nevada, Arizona and Florida on short sales and foreclosures in an ocean of supply. This bubble, which broke at the end of 2005, is now being bottomed as the media misses the law of supply and demand. The media rails about huge drops in housing permits, starts and sales. These are a big supply reducer and leaves buyers shopping among the existing supply.

Corporate and Municipal Bonds

Investors are so scared that they don’t trust state and municipalities. Lonely buyers are seeing the biggest spreads to treasury bonds since the 1930’s and supply is contracting fast.

Money markets/Cash/T-bills

These are the world’s most popular investments. There are hardly any lonely sellers and there is currently the world’s biggest army of buyers. Money-market prices are at record highs and interest rates at or near 70-years lows.

Commodities

This asset class was hotter than a pistol from 2003 to four months ago. However, price regulates price and that rule is no exception in the price of oil, grains, basic materials and other commodities. Supply comes out of the woodwork and alternatives become very attractive. I would expect this asset class to be dead money in the “Next Great U.S. Stock Market.”

I remember being a lonely seller of Tech stocks in late 1999 and feeling incredibly foolish as I talked to unhappy clients who were watching their rabid neighbors get wealthy overnight on the latest Initial Public Offering (IPO) of common stock. Supply was exploding and buying was frenzied. We are at the exact opposite today. Sellers are dumping the best companies with the brightest futures and there are virtually no IPO’s. As the “Motels” sang in 1982, “It’s like I told you, only the lonely can play.”

Warmest regards,

 


William Smead

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SCM Missive | October 22nd, 2008

Wednesday, October 22nd, 2008

William Smead
Chief Executive Officer
Chief Investment Officer 


 
 
Dear Clients and Prospective Clients: 
1. What have U.S. stock markets which fell 35% or more done in the few months after plunging to a violent low?

Answer: There are two possibilities which have occurred. A V-shaped bottom came in 1907, 1917, 1932, 1942, and 1970. This means a major rebound started immediately. The alternative was a retesting of the low like in 1903, 1974, 1987 and 2002. The retesting took one to two months in those cases, except in 2002-03 when the retest came in 4.5 months.
2. How much does the Dow Jones Industrial Average rebound after a big decline and how long did the rebound last?

Answer:
1903 – 144% gain in two years and two months.
1907 – 89.7% gain in one year.
1917 – 81% gain in one year and 11 months.
1932 – 93.9% gain in two months. 268% gain in 19 months.
1942 – 128% gain in four years and a month.
1970 – 50.6% gain in 11 months.
1974 – 75% in one year and three months.
1987 – 72.5% in two years.
2002 – 93.4% in five years.
3. How did the people who were involved in the stock market back then feel at those bottom points?
Answer: They had a lousy feeling and many of them bailed out or moved to cash temporarily. Warren Buffett told them in a Forbes magazine article to buy on November 1st of 1974 and most of them didn’t listen.
4. Do we think this is a repeat of the 1930’s?
Answer: No. We think this is the first 40% decline that has occurred since the advent of the internet, 24-hour news and information overload. People are reacting worse because they know more, know it quicker and dwell on it.
5. Will we be glad in the “Next Great U.S. Stock Market” when we don’t have to answer questions like these?

Answer: Yes. But if we want to create wealth in the stock market we have to act like the billionaires at extremes. Buffett says, “The most important quality for an investor is temperament, not intellect.” We want you all to have a good stock market temperament.
 

 

 

Warmest regards,

William Smead
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